WHO Poll
Q: 2023/24 Hopes & aspirations for this season
a. As Champions of Europe there's no reason we shouldn't be pushing for a top 7 spot & a run in the Cups
24%
  
b. Last season was a trophy winning one and there's only one way to go after that, I expect a dull mid table bore fest of a season
17%
  
c. Buy some f***ing players or we're in a battle to stay up & that's as good as it gets
18%
  
d. Moyes out
37%
  
e. New season you say, woohoo time to get the new kit and wear it it to the pub for all the big games, the wags down there call me Mr West Ham
3%
  



Gavros 3:21 Wed Dec 3
the Autumn statement
Nice one Gideon. Much more graduated stamp duty rules and closing the multinational corporate tax loophole.

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LAD 2:02 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
Glad I don't deal with many properties over a million, will be a lot of renegotiation going on.

Good news re the stamp duty though, about time it was changed.

Joke Whole 4:39 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
riosleftsock 5:44 Thu Dec 4

Given the timing, I wouldn't be surprised if he's "taking one for the team" in order to (try to) stop people looking too closely at the effects of the Autumn Statement.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:27 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
No. It's a tax cut for dead people! Not top of my list, but, hey, whatever turns you on.

mentor 1:26 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
Inheritance tax would go completely. That's a tax cut for very rich people.

No it isn't.

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 1:13 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
Well that's a rather different criticism than your original one, which was that Labour took less and less off the rich while having the very lower top tax rate that you support.

Which was, as I have shown, just mindless bad-mouthing.

I never thought I'd see the day when it was left to me to defend Brown and Darling.

After8 1:09 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
My criticism is they complain about the Tories not taxing the rich when that's barefaced lie.

I read the ukip website. I read www.ukip.org/issues

it says they'd abolish taxes on the minimum wage. Good.

All green taxes would be scrapped.
Inheritance tax would go completely. That's a tax cut for very rich people.

Is that it?

What about the luxury goods tax? Has that announcement been scraped already?

Nothing on cutting stamp duty
Nothing on clamping down on tax avoidance
Nothing on freezing and cutting fuel duty
Nothing on council tax
Nothing on air passenger duty (or is that under green tax?)

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:56 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
After8 12:49 Fri Dec 5

UKIP's policy is nothing to do with me,but it's on their website if you are interested.

So, am I to assume that 45% is the optimum rate and that the Tories have no aspiration ever to lower it? That seems a rather radical departure from Tory thinking.

And what is your evidence for 45%?

So, in any event, given your argument, your criticism of Labour appears to be that they are for the most part, the party of overly low taxes?

Or are you perhaps just talking shit?

Because if not, you appear to want it all ways.

After8 12:49 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement

You said Labour produced less and less tax from the rich.

You said a 45% higher tax rate produced more revenue than 50%.

And yet, for all but a couple of months Labour's tax rate was 40 per cent. Which is lower than 45% last time I checked.

Does a lower top rate produce higher or lower revenues? You appear to want to have it both ways.

A 45p rate produces more than a 50p rate as people avoid taxes at 50%

A 45p rate produces more than a 40p rate as it's higher.

It's simple economics.

What's ukips tax policy?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:37 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
You should be happy, then. You certainly took one up the arse just now.

BRANDED 12:34 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
I only like men, you shoild fucking know

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:32 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
Branded

Not while your missus has got her mouth full, no.

BRANDED 12:30 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
Surface

Can you suck yourself off?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:22 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
After 8

You seem to be having alittle problem with this question, so I'll ask it again. It seems to be a plain enough question, you just need to address all parts of it instead of just repeat back one element of the question to me.

1) You said Labour produced less and less tax from the rich.

2)You said a 45% higher tax rate produced more revenue than 50%.

3) And yet, for all but a couple of months Labour's tax rate was 40 per cent. Which is lower than 45% last time I checked.

Does a lower top rate produce higher or lower revenues?

You appear to want to have it both ways. How do 1) and 3) make sense in terms of 2)?

After8 12:19 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
not at all surface,

the analysis shows at 45p there's less tax avoidance, at 50 that.becomes an issue.

what's ukip tax policy?

SurfaceAgentX2Zero 12:18 Fri Dec 5
Re: the Autumn statement
After8 11:24 Thu Dec 4

You still haven't answered the question. I'll ask it again, because you seem to be having trouble with giving a straight answer as usual.

You said Labour produced less and less tax from the rich.

You said a 45% higher tax rate produced more revenue than 50%.

And yet, for all but a couple of months Labour's tax rate was 40 per cent. Which is lower than 45% last time I checked.

Does a lower top rate produce higher or lower revenues? You appear to want to have it both ways.

Gavros 11:36 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
Maybe because the left would raise a massive kerfuffle about it and claim it was something to help bankers and aristocrats, and the usual mongs would agree with them.

riosleftsock 11:31 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
8

why don't your lot support a flat tax rate?

Its proven to reduce avoidance and encourage employment whilst reducing the need for accountants.

After8 11:24 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
not at all surface,

the analysis shows at 45p there's less tax avoidance, at 50 that.becomes an issue.

what's ukip tax policy?

riosleftsock 8:57 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
Tax is essential, as it is the secondary role of a progressive civilisation/government to redistribute wealth and to ensure that capital is turned over.

BRANDED 8:55 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
You could. Avoid tax at all costs. It will only end up in the hands of scum.

stewie griffin 8:53 Thu Dec 4
Re: the Autumn statement
haha, Branded!

sock0 - oh don't get me wrong, I get it, just think it's pretty heartless. Still, you could probably argue the same about any tax.

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